I'm wondering what the best way to divide these domains would be; is the following (about) correct?: * Cities: Hand these out to (non-Bishop) vassals that are. As such, your first goal should be level 2 in all holdings before you upgrade any further. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. A ruler's demesne limit is based on tier, personal and spouse stewardship, succession type, and centralization law. Fast forward a generation and the. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. . Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. makes sense. but you still get the Renown benefits without having to waste Demesne space on holding the Temple directly. I am the emperor of Rajastan (currently in northern India) and I built a city and a temple. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. In general when you get the "Wrong Type of Holding" notification you should try and give it to the correct type of ruler. . After clicking it, I get a notice saying that Wrong Type of Holding in Demesne. Tax Percentage is set by liege law. Any help would be appreciated. There's also penalties to holding too many titles. Anyways, I'm playing my first game as the Ua Briain dynasty in Ireland. Not to mention that holding the wrong holding type means you are responsible for uphgrading. So should I just spread out my demesne across the entire realm, with few castles here and there, instead of controlling everything. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. But I can't give it away. 19 coastal. I am listed as the holder of the city of Newark, so I keep getting the "wrong type of holding" alert. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. This limit is what forces rulers to distribute power to vassals rather than directly controlling their entire realm. Created the petty kingdom of Tara, I hold 3 pieces of land. What exactly does this mean?One 6-holding. Jun 18, 2015 at 5:20. If I select a vassal and grant landed title, I only get a. 700+. Thank you. . 700+. ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. But I can't give it away. Vassaless runs are worse than runs with vassals because you cannot hold all holdings without the demesne size penalty and you get gold*0,1 from that holding. I guess it's because the capital is temple and I should put some bishop to rule there, right?I have de jure claims on Worchester, it was ruled by a prince-bishop since the capital of the county is temple. Building holdings, especially cities pays off after a few centuries, so if you are in for the long haul it's a sensible decision, cities in particular are good for the long term as they make so much money they build all improvements on their own (even universities). So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. I have all of Ireland right now (I'm also King of Eire), and I took over Gwynedd from the Petty Kingdom of Gwynedd, but now I have the wrong holding type in my demesne for some reason. . 5 - 114 years. 0) They must have at least 500 gold. What is the actual penalty for holding these?I have this and I dont know how to fix it. I don't understand this. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. an estate or part of an estate occupied and controlled by, and worked for the exclusive use of, the owner. The plot concluded and I won the county back, but I am now getting a message that says: Wrong type of holding in demesne. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. New posts All threads Latest threads New posts Trending threads. All but 1 are coastal. If the county level title is held by a baron, which is most commonly the case, that baron becomes a count. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. Having 2 castles instead would help you a lot more, especially in terms of army size. Left-click on the "Explore Character Opinions" button. 700+. ago. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. " By Anyone-4-CS in forum Networking & Security Replies: 6. And how I can change this. . . Any help would be appreciated. So holding the wrong holding type is almost never worth it. types - castles, cities, temples or tribes. makes sense. ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. 5: Tunis. "Wrong type of holding in Demesne" | Paradox Interactive Forums "Wrong type of holding in Demesne" aliebling Feb 15, 2012 Jump to latest Follow Reply What. I just built a city in my capitol county, and it says "Holder is of wrong holding type". What you can do there is either build a new castle or find a way to inherit/revoke a vassal Baron's castle in the county, then make it the capital holding. These holdings provide both income and taxes, and every holding is held by a character. 700+. 1. , I imprison/banish a mayor (as a king with one county), and take possession of his title. A city holding. Any help would be appreciated. Then I noticed in my messages that this was "the wrong type of holding" for me, i. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. In a separate issue, I have towns/castles that I can't upgrade because it says I don't have Keeps II which I do have. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. The plot concluded and I won the county back, but I am now getting a message that says: Wrong type of holding in demesne. So should I just spread out my demesne across the entire realm, with few castles here and there, instead of controlling everything. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. What is the actual penalty for holding these?I just built a city in my capitol county, and it says "Holder is of wrong holding type". They are not the right type of holding. Any help would be appreciated. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. . The formula for each vassal is: Liege Taxes = Vassal Income x Tax Percentage x Penalty Modifiers. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. . Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. As the map receives further updates, the number of holdings may increase. It isn't listed as one of my demesnes that I can assign to someone else. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. Fast forward a generation and the. Barons have baronies, mayors have cities, and bishops have bishoprics. So I was playing the demo earlier and an 'alert button' popped up saying that a few of my provinces were the wrong type of holding in my demesne. They are not the right type of holding. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. After clicking it, I get a notice saying that Wrong Type of Holding in Demesne. So should I just spread out my demesne across the entire realm, with few castles here and there, instead of controlling everything. Jump to latest Follow Reply. Merchant Republics aside, players can only hold Tribes (if Tribal) or Baronies (if Feudal). ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. Now I have a tribe as the capital, rather than a castle. 1) Wrong type of holding in Demesne, did not changed when i gave it away to my second born son. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. Crusader Kings II. The plot concluded and I won the county back, but I am now getting a message that says: Wrong type of holding in demesne. 23 total. They are not the right type of holding. You aren't supposed to directly hold cities or temples as a feudal lord. But now I see Wrong type of holding in demesne message. 21 total. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. Best way to fix it is to give it away to someone who isn't already a ruler. Thank you. makes sense. Barons have baronies, mayors have cities, and bishops have bishoprics. 700+ gold to build it, I'll make that up. Ormond is a county without a castle, so when you conquer it you will be ruler of a city. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. 2. I conquered some tribal holdings in the North via holy war and, noticing the 'wrong type of holding' penalty, granted these to some of my middle sons and other relatives. Some like to dump a lot of castles in their capital province though though, because of the bonus to levy in the capital. The three holdings in question were 2 cities and a bishopric that I had. Available now on Paradox Mods, on Steam workshop (on hold for long)I don't understand this. But now I see Wrong type of holding in demesne message. "Wrong type of holding" refers to you directly holding a city or bishopric. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. Once I did that, I got a pop up saying I got a wrong type of holding in demesne (for. This will only work for the subholdings, so for the main holding you're going to have to either give it away to someone else or create a tribal holding in one. Wrong Type of Holding When I click on my capital, it no longer has the options to build anything and when i look at the intrigue panel again, it still says adopt feudalism but now I can't do it anymore because it says I need a. (Was realm prior to Version 1. . They are not the right type of holding. Any help would be appreciated. . And how I can change this. Paradox Forum. Business, Economics, and Finance. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. Thread starter Jaol; Start date Feb 26,. . . Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. 1) Wrong type of holding in Demesne, did not changed when i gave it away to my second born son. If you don't use Ironman for your current game, you can open the console by typing any of the following: On German/Nordic keyboards, this is ⇧Shift + 3 This may also be the combo of left shift and the §| key to the left of the number 1 on the number row. Alongside intimidating the AI by helping yourself to larger percentages of their troops, you want to make sure none of your vassals are particularly powerful in the first place. cities. Business, Economics, and Finance. #4. What is the actual penalty for holding these?Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. Temples & cities offer useless levy even at full strength. Left-click on the "Explore Character Opinions" button. I am the emperor of Rajastan (currently in northern India) and I built a city and a temple. So, I'm the king of England. I am the emperor of Rajastan (currently in northern India) and I built a city and a temple. . These settlements should generally be given to a vassal of the correct type or to a courtier (who will automatically take on the correct type). Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. . Now when I take a friend of mine from my court and attempt to grant him the county, he does not become a mayor. . 700+. - Added title history commands 'name', 'adjective', 'reset_name' and 'reset_adjective'. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. A. , I imprison/banish a mayor (as a king with one county), and take possession of his title. Also, if you are not at your demesne limit you can hold onto wrong holdings. Thank you. Wrong Type Of Holding In Demesne; Some of them are pretty easy to spot. . To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. top of page. Temples & cities offer useless levy even at full strength. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. . . . 6: Normandy. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. Showing 1 - 14 of 14 comments. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. I have this and I dont know how to fix it. I've got this notifier pop up - "Wrong type of holding in demesne". 4 coastal holdings/county. Note that this means the type of one or more of your provinces could change when you become a republic. but this holdings are…For example, my capital has 6 slots, all of them belong to different vassals and I don't even seem to have a claim on them (even though I'm the heir, if the current title holder dies and I get it, it will just say "wrong type of holding"). I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. Thank you. They are not the right type of holding. If you control a city and isn't a republic you should have a "wrong type of holding in demesne" alert at the top of the screen. Wrong type of holding in demesne NapoleonI Feb 21, 2012 Jump to latest Follow Reply I got this message when I revoked the title of major of Sigtuna (a city) from. 4 coastal holdings/county. The problem is of course that this isn't the county capital. All but 1 are coastal. I have looked at the titles for that county (Perfeddwlad - Wales) and I have nothing for the Major of Dendigh which the title was originally. Wrong Type of Holding in Demesne issue. Engage in courtly intrigue, dynastic struggles, and holy warfare in mediæval Europe, Africa, the Middle East, India, the steppes and Tibet. Holding Income = (Base Income + Building Income) x (1 + Local Income Modifiers) x (1 + Owner Income Modifiers) The Base Holding Income is the sum of: the Base Income of the holding: 0. 700+ gold to build it, I'll make that up. . But now I see Wrong type of holding in demesne message. . Wrong type of holding in demesne for feudal lord capturing tribes. The three holdings in question were 2 cities and a bishopric that I had. Cities: Focus on tax. Hindu characters will suffer opinion penalties if they have holdings. . What does it mean, and how do I fix it?And how I can change this. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I. They are not the right type of holding. No existing Merchant Republic can have trade posts in their demesne. Thank you. I don't understand this. I don't understand this. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. They are not the right type of holding. But now I see Wrong type of holding in demesne message. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. It is not worth it. Generally speaking, castles are best. If I select a vassal. And how I can change this. I have de jure claims on Worchester, it was ruled by a prince-bishop since the capital of the county is temple. Each of these three types have an associated character type; baronies are typically owned by nobles, cities by. Crusader Kings is a historical grand strategy / RPG game series for PC, Mac, Linux, PlayStation 5 & Xbox Series X|S developed & published by Paradox Development Studio. 700+. If you control a city and isn't a republic you should have a "wrong type of holding in demesne" alert at the top of the screen. I was given a county by the HRE and I am a count. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. Various buildings in CK3, especially special buildings like Hagia Sophia etc. However, there are several things about this system that seem unsatisfactory or inaccurate: So I was playing the demo earlier and an 'alert button' popped up saying that a few of my provinces were the wrong type of holding in my demesne. . Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. CryptoHello, I would like to know more about this game since i find it difficult than other strategies, some things i have learned in hard way and some i still can not. They are not the right type of holding. Fast forward a generation and the. 19 coastal. What is the actual penalty for holding these?I am the emperor of Rajastan (currently in northern India) and I built a city and a temple. I am the emperor of Rajastan (currently in northern India) and I built a city and a temple. CryptoFor example, my capital has 6 slots, all of them belong to different vassals and I don't even seem to have a claim on them (even though I'm the heir, if the current title holder dies and I get it, it will just say "wrong type of holding"). Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. They are not the right type of holding. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. All Discussions Screenshots Artwork Broadcasts Videos Workshop News Guides Reviews. Rogues are the masters of stealthy combat and ranged weapons. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. Fast forward a generation and the. Fast forward a generation and the. Not sure what to do with it. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. . The formula for each vassal is: Liege Taxes = Vassal Income x Tax Percentage x Penalty Modifiers. I don't understand this. To create the new vassal either nightclick a character and grant them the title, or click the Wrong Type of Holding Pop-Up and rightclick the Holding on the bottom left and press. Any help would be appreciated. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. But now I see Wrong type of holding in demesne message. Any help would be appreciated. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. I hold Leicester as Earl. I have looked at the titles for that county (Perfeddwlad - Wales) and I have nothing for the Major of Dendigh which the title was originally. . I'm playing a small count in Germany (Altmark), and after acquiring Mecklenburg from the pagans I am faced with various problems. Thank you. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. Dec 30, 2020 — Category: Ck2 tribal vs feudal. < >. The biggest penalty, though, is that you're basically spending demesne points for worthless holdings. I revoked it for myself and became a count worchester as I believe I am supposed to be. They are not the right type of holding. Level 5, cost 400, income 3. For the counties I usually go to the intrigue tab to recruit a noble/soldier/holy men. I don't understand this. Early game they're cheap but get pricey quick. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. There are three types of holdings: Baronies: Focus on troops. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. . Crusader Kings 2 is almost 5 years old, but the developers at Paradox are still producing new content for it in the form of patches and DLC. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. In a separate issue, I have towns/castles that I can't upgrade because it says I don't have Keeps II. On a side note, I think few major patches ago, they changed feudal to theocracy vassal. My income in that province increased greatly. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. Either give them away to a mayor or bishop or create a new such vassal by right-clicking. The solutions are either getting the right type of holding to be the county capital, either by building a new holding of the correct type or revoking the title of another holding of the correct type in the county, or give the county to someone else. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. 7: Barcelona. Hi all, I'm playing tribal in Ireland and I have just clicked the adopt feudalism button. Forums. I hold Leicester as Earl. The plot concluded and I won the county back, but I am now getting a message that says: Wrong type of holding in demesne. Each ruler (except nomads) has a demesne limit, and exceeding it causes a penalty to taxes and levies. Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. are they baronage. Support. What is the actual penalty for holding these? The solutions are either getting the right type of holding to be the county capital, either by building a new holding of the correct type or revoking the title of. Either to an unlanded courtier, previously landed vassal or a newly created one through the given holding's menu. . I got this message when I revoked the title of major of Sigtuna (a city) from an underling. makes sense. 4 7 comments Add a Comment RandomGenius123 • 4 yr. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. As Poland, I conquered the Pommeranian tribes to the north. 3. I gave away the bishopric that I took over, but I still have it and it says that the Chiefdom of Gwynedd is the wrong holding type for me. I have looked at the titles for that county (Perfeddwlad - Wales) and I have nothing for the Major of Dendigh which the title was originally. It includes the vassal's demesne income, liege tax from their own vassals, and trade income. These holdings provide both income and taxes, and every holding is held by a character. I am a new player of CK2 (current patch) playing as the feudal King of Sweden on the standard start date. ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. I am the emperor of Rajastan (currently in northern India) and I built a city and a temple. It doesnt really help much though, its just a way to spend money. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. Just now, I finished constructing a new city in the county where my ruler resides. Either to an unlanded courtier, previously landed vassal or a newly created one through the given holding's menu. And how I can change this. ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. Early game they're cheap but get pricey quick. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. Because whenever I assign a landed title I see. I'd love any advice or explanation you have. You can see it has a city as county capital but it's held by a duke (noble) so it's the wrong type of holding. 3/1/2023 0 Comments The Earth Hillfort in this holding is already Level I so will “only” take three more upgrades to become a Stone Hillfort, which is what you need to go feudal. 9/8/2023. Any ideas? Right now, this is about to be my punishment county. CryptoI don't understand this. A Screenshot of Crusader Kings III. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. In CK2 some of them do so (to compensate their land being de facto so heavily underrated), and their military power is based on mercenaries (Mamluks of Egypt, Ghilman of Iraq/Persia) That would be ok, if these armies were not supported by quite massive vasal and demesne levies. And how I can change this. A large part of your income, especially in a small realm, comes from the personal holdings of your demesne . . In a separate issue, I have towns/castles that I can't upgrade because it says I don't have Keeps II which I do have. I saw that I was 9/7 in terms of demese (sp?) so I tried to give some of the provinces away to lower that back to the limit. CK2 noob here. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. What does it mean, and how do I fix it?I am the emperor of Rajastan (currently in northern India) and I built a city and a temple. Fast forward a generation and the. Afterwards, I got the "wrong type of holding" warning, and each holding in the three provinces is labeled with a "recently conquered" modifier for wrong religion, wrong culture, etc. If I select a vassal and grant landed title, I only get a. Saves tons of time if you inherit lots of land through crusades/holy wars. Because whenever I assign a landed title I see. ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. I don't understand this. Hi, When winning a holy war for Toledo, I get 8 holdings too many under my demesne. Got replaced by the heir that had a city as landed title. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. However a castle holding will never change into a city holding as you asked in your question. And how I can change this. . I don't understand this. Bishoprics: A middle ground between baronies and cities. I am the emperor of Rajastan (currently in northern India) and I built a city and a temple. This form of taxation is called a 'liege tax' in Crusader Kings 2. Hello friends, i was being as Poland then i have conquered the Pomeranian tribes to the north, but after that i have got "wrong type of holding" warning, and the holding in three provinces is been labeled as "recently conquered" modifier for wrong religion, culture etc, which usually expire in five years. On macOS (US), ⌥Option + 6 enters. Crusader Kings II.